Curse

floppinghog · Jul 15, 2006, 08:14 AM // 08:14

extra armor isnt as much of a difference after 100 AL. -2 dmg off of every attack after figuring the armor in, is a HUGE deal. get it through your thick heads

led-zep · Jul 15, 2006, 09:42 AM // 09:42

nice to see the 'deal with it' fools cant read and still post their same old tired drivel.
it was in my thinking that patches for other games add things to the game and fix aspects of the game. anets patches just seem to detract in the majority.
i feel sorry for those who bought 15k kurzick/luxon boots or helm.

gw chapter 10 - everyone has 1 armour except warriors who have 2, all spells/skills nerfed to 1 damage but to please everyone the minipets now have minpets

yamero · Jul 15, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

i dont see guildwars surviving through chapter 3....
i really dont..
sad.....

Cyan The Archer · Jul 15, 2006, 11:19 AM // 11:19

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Originally Posted by Ken Dei

These "deal with it" people are getting really disgusting. Bunch of friggin cowards. Seriously, it's their answer to everything.

-Don't like an update?: "deal with it."
-Think a boss is overpowered, and is?: "deal with it."
-Tired of people treating you like crap in game?: "deal with it."
-Keep getting scammed so you try and motivate the community?: "deal with it."
-Thin a particular aspect of the game in general or anything at all needs a change or fix?: "deal with it."

Frankly, screw talking, I want these people to just shut the heck up already. They don't say anything else, it's like they're braindead and devoid of all feeling. I swear, I could probably pluck the eyes out of one of them and their only response would be: "deal with it."

However, I would like the community to be able to vote on important game changes like what happened. That way A.Net would have never done such rediculously stupid thing and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Sorry, but, deal with it? Ignore those 'cowards'. Why do they bother you? It's only a small part of the community(The other part is the whining group

j/k)

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yamero: Yeah sad, but it's always a good thing you get surprised. I'm sure GW will survive through chapter 3. And people saying "omfg im out of here Mending dont work with echo" usually stay and play the game.
It's been the same at the Battlefield 2 community - They whine and whine and flame, but people keep playing

yamero · Jul 15, 2006, 12:48 PM // 12:48

yes its so nice to get suprised every once in a while...
like this update...
as a hardcore fighter type fan since diablo/baldurs gate that last update almost gave me a heart attack...
i really worry about what theyll do next..
but this is not the time or place for that kind of talk is it?

Xenrath · Jul 15, 2006, 12:58 PM // 12:58

I'm also getting tired of the people who basically seem to think you should just lap it up and kiss butt, even when things are obviously not as they should be. Maybe some folks are happy to feel misled and/or feel they're cheated out large amounts of effort in some cases.

Just because some parts are good/great does not automatically mean everything is great and there should be no feedback or criticism at all about things which upset players.

If people kept their discontent about things quiet and "dealt with it" the world would not have got much further than the stone age (if even that far). Deal with that.

Flabber Babble · Jul 15, 2006, 01:10 PM // 13:10

Yay for change.

I always thought it was a little extreme that my W/Mo could take on a huge mob of Ice Imps by himself, enjoyed it while it lasted. But even after the update, I still play on my Warrior and enjoy doing the missions just like I did before. The Drok's run is still possible... so no big loss there.

Truthfully, if you cant solo a huge mob, then ANet has done what they've been trying to... making GW into a TEAM game. Although most updates are aimed at the PvP realm, this will also cut down on solo farming (at least for the wammo). If anything, I'd worry about the 55's, the nerf bat may swing your way soon enough.

And yes, for those "deal with it" posts, this type of argumentation is oversimplified, no support, no counterpoint, no relevence... To Xenrath, I appreciate your position on this, and I don't bash anyone who posts for or against the issue, but if they dont have any type of support for their position or even an attempt at it, then it's nothing but a waste of bandwidth.

led-zep · Jul 15, 2006, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by Xenrath

I'm also getting tired of the people who basically seem to think you should just lap it up and kiss butt, even when things are obviously not as they should be. Maybe some folks are happy to feel misled and/or feel they're cheated out large amounts of effort in some cases.

Just because some parts are good/great does not automatically mean everything is great and there should be no feedback or criticism at all about things which upset players.

If people kept their discontent about things quiet and "dealt with it" the world would not have got much further than the stone age (if even that far). Deal with that.

exactly, too many people here think that if they kiss anets butts enough that they might be their bestest friend and walk off into the horizon hand in hand.

to show that level of loyalty to a company is pathetic especially when said company is destroying what once was a very good game.

these are the people who will be cheering when anet replace warrior weapons with pillows cos you can still play as a warrior but you can adapt and push all the stuffing to one end and get a slightly harder hit.

there really is no point in arguing with the 'live with it' brigade as the majority dont have the intelligence to question, they just blindly obey.

Hockster · Jul 15, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

With any luck all the whiners will rage quit making PUG's a definate possiblilty again. I suspect that most whining couldn't play for shit anyway, hence all the anger. All their crutches have been removed.

Azu · Jul 15, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex

3 months after the MM nerf outrage, and before that the AoE AI update and many more updates before that, another patch has caused an uproar in the GW population.

And as always, post after post of "change and adapt" pops up everywhere in response to the negative outrage.

Shouldn't a line be drawn somewhere? Because seriously, even if the warrior's armor is cut in half he can still survive with dolyak sig + mass enchants. And the "change and adapt' chant is still valid...

But with every person that actually did adapt, one would actually leave the game. Many would say "good, its better if you leave", but is that what we really want? Getting more and more people to leave? I can just imagine people starting to complaining about low population and people would say "change and adapt, play with henchies only in PvE and PvP"

Joking aside, I really think people need to be more "middle-ground" and actually think whether the patches are reasonable or not, instead of just blindly defending or complaining about ANET.

Maybe then we can actually have a decent discussion about patches...

/End whining (or argument depends on who reads this)

Did people really leave over this or are you just guessing... you have no way of knowing if anyone stopped playing indefinitely...

And if people do leave over things like this they are lame anyway, theres more to GW than just playing a Warrior.

AW Lore · Jul 15, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Shouldn't a line be drawn somewhere? Because seriously, even if the warrior's armor is cut in half he can still survive with dolyak sig + mass enchants. And the "change and adapt' chant is still valid...

cut in half? so, the warrior received 10 from flare before update (just a guess, dont know how much a warrior receives from flare) now he will receive 17.

tho5243 · Jul 15, 2006, 04:47 PM // 16:47

To all those "Get over it or leave" people out there.

Yes, they will leave which means that their will be less server loads, more room. These people will also not buy the beloved future chapters; no big deal you say people will always continue to buy GW. So what happens when im shopping for a game and see someone looking at GW? I will tell them from experiance wht the game is like and they may or may not buy it. No big deal.

Now what will happen if everyone who chooses to leave does this? How long will GW last with ppl not buying future chapters? Sure there will be alot less server load; before too long there will be so little that it becomes not profitable to run those servers. Exactly how loyal to you do you think A-net will be to you, the same one that said "Get over it or leave"? Do you honestly think that the second they stop turning a profit from chapter sales they will just "Get over it".. I dont, I think they will choose the leave option too.

Just my 2cents.

Vahn Roi · Jul 15, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

:edit:

found this in another topic, I pretty much says what I was trying to say

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Armor change was not targetted at warriors, it was a blanket fix of all global boost armor pieces, also worn by mesmers. Warriors just whine louder. Elementalists cannot be too much more buffed as well because of causing more imbalance. Making warriors take 7 more damage is not imbalance when they already have a 3/4 damage from squishielevel due to armor, not counting shields or non-gladiator sets, or armor boosts.

Sanji · Jul 15, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

Boy, it takes a considerably large amount of personal integrity and courage to whine when something in a video game gets fixed to your detriment.

Russell.Crowe · Jul 15, 2006, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Lordhelmos

I like the new update, now I can BBQ wammos!

Hehehe... looks like ritualists won't be short on ashes for a looonnngg timmee. They need to make a new skill called empty urn for all the wammos that are about to be baked by us elementalist who have been left in the shadow of ignarance for so long.

Arise my elementalist friends! It is now time for vengence! The great trogdor...erm rodgort has spoken! He says...

BURNINATE THE PEOPLES!!!!

Anyway let's hunt those wammos don't and kick them while they are down with our leet elemental skills that knights armor no longer protects them against. I heard theres some giant wammo strike going on... why don't we start there?

LF 1000 more echo nukers/starbursters for tank farming add self!!

You say this, until some warrior knocks you on the ground and rapes you, then you will reply, "STOOPID NOOB OVERPOWERED WARRIORS, THEY NEED NERF." This patch really doesn't add that much damage, so good luck with your theory.

Loviatar · Jul 15, 2006, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex

But with every person that actually did adapt, one would actually leave the game. )

since you dont have access to any quitting figures let alone the reason for stopping you have simply proven yourself one of those people who simply throw out figures at random.

people to be ignored

Flabber Babble · Jul 15, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44

I smell good humor in Lordhelmos's post.

LMAO

Jas · Jul 15, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04

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Originally Posted by anonymous

Community vote on it? The majority of the community can't even do better than henchmen, let alone understand game mechanics and balance. If the community had the vote on big issues, max level would be 476957439687, the highest costing energy skill would be 5, you would be able to solo anything in the game, and anytime you killed a monster it would drop 10k.

/agree

I know some changes are rather harsh and radical, but as far as I'm concerned, they've all been for the good of the game itself, not for the good of some few people who keep constantly whining for every little change.

Zorian Direspell · Jul 15, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Personally I agree that all of those using 'adapt or leave', 'learn to play' or other clearly antagonistic, thought-devoid coments are wrong in using them. Yet, at the same time, I don't think warriors suffered that much. Yes, absorption has been nerfed .... but warrior damage and AL hasn't, and both are very,very good.

Edit: Yeah! I'm a professor! I wonder if I'll get tenure ....

Young Hero · Jul 15, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03

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Originally Posted by yamero

i dont see guildwars surviving through chapter 3....
i really dont..
sad.....

It is so sad.I use to love this game, love has turned to hate.
And its not from 1 update but multiple A-Nerf decisions.